http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ StateFans Nation Forums » Topic: Possible UNC NCAA violations regarding Wayne Ellington? en Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:57:42 +0000 http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=3#post-39720 Sun, 18 Jul 2010 03:46:39 +0000 turfpack 39720@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>OK-Smoky Stiravant-then the NCAA investigation at UNC = verdict......Quote of Frank Derbon of Police Squad &quot;MOVE ALONG HERE-NOTHING TO SEE-MOVE ALONG!&quot; If anything comes of this I will be surprised.The blue and white of teflon university.....media darlings ALL BULLSHIT!!!!! </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=3#post-39699 Sat, 17 Jul 2010 01:55:42 +0000 Plz2BStateFan 39699@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p><img src="http://i.imgur.com/tZk92.gif"> </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=3#post-39684 Fri, 16 Jul 2010 19:10:45 +0000 newt 39684@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>&quot;The crux of the bisquit is the apostrophe.&quot; Not sure what I was thinking up there... </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=3#post-39676 Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:34:53 +0000 wufpup76 39676@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>shhh! Don&#39;t kill the cash cow!!!</p> <p><img src="http://juicymelons.org/~echobunny/Photos/misc/cashcow.jpg"> </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=3#post-39665 Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:07:00 +0000 newt 39665@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2010-06-10-usc-timeline-bush-mayo-violations_N.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2010-06-10-usc-timeline-bush-mayo-violations_N.htm</a></p> <p>Two points from this timeline of the USC investigation - </p> <p>1: The allegations that started the Reggie Bush/USC investigation concerned folks living in houses/apartments at big discounts because they were athletes - so it would matter if the Ellington&#39;s were getting a sweet discount.</p> <p>2: The investigation crossed over from football to basketball, and the NCAA combined these two into an investigation of the entire athletic department - so a reasonable person would think that the NCAA would take a quick look towards this curious scenario while they are poking around the football program. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=3#post-39540 Fri, 16 Jul 2010 01:07:55 +0000 StateFans 39540@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>Reggie Bush lives </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=3#post-20446 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 13:29:47 +0000 fullmoon1 20446@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>We imposed violations on our own program for less. The allegations against v and ncsu had less evidence. In 73 we were placed on probation for DT playing a pick up game at the school where he enrolled for classes. This just exposes the chasm between the standard unc is held to against what everyone else must adhere to. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=3#post-20247 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:06:07 +0000 packplantpath 20247@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>Baxter, dude, this is the internet. It was built on unfounded accusations and rumors. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=3#post-20226 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:21:30 +0000 baxter 20226@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>it is just as likely that he sold his home to pay rent while waiting for his son to get a contract, or took out loans to be closer to his son. I think without a direct &quot;free rent&quot; or extremely affordable rent statement, I can&#39;t see evidence to validate the claim. It does look suspicious, no doubt, but I suspect if there was anything illegal it was very well hidden. The problem with this is unless you can seize his records and validate his payments, income, and spending, as well as the car payments, then we cant do anything but speculate. And quite frankly, it would be hard to do any of that without infringing upon his rights unless this speculation can produce reasonable cause. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=3#post-20218 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:27:04 +0000 LKNpackfan 20218@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>Try forwarding it to the Wilmington Star-News, at least they&#39;re owned by the NYTimes Co. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-20202 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:46:07 +0000 phishbfm 20202@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>I never got anything else from the N&amp;O after my initial email saying they were going to look into it. Just another day. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-20196 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:30:43 +0000 fullmoon1 20196@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>Maybe the picturesque pines at Keenan are blocking the view. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-20155 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:20:17 +0000 highstick 20155@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>McClatchy owns most of the major newSpapers in the Carolinas and that is a PROBLEM! </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-20150 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 20:16:20 +0000 packbackr04 20150@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>i cant believe that if there is even a small amount of validity to this that it hasnt been picked up yet by the N&amp;O... i mean Sid watering his yard on the wrong day was front page material and this is a non-story? give me a break </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-20121 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:58:39 +0000 LKNpackfan 20121@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>Granted its been awhile, but last I checked, McClatchy was still printing papers in Charlotte and the Triangle so obviously they have some sort of resources still available. If coverage is so difficult with their remaining staff then maybe journalists could be deployed on topics that, you know, are actually important. They dug Jim Black&#39;s grave (thankfully) and you&#39;d think Easley&#39;s shenanigans were just as low hanging. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-20111 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:32:10 +0000 Plz2BStateFan 20111@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>I know who can do this....HEATHER DINCH! </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-20108 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 18:27:42 +0000 Noah 20108@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>You want the N&amp;O to cover it? With their excess glut of reporters? Ohhh wait, they fired all of them. How about television? They&#39;re always pretty good about covering stuff -- provided they read about it in the newspaper first.</p> <p>Hmm... </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-20082 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:51:15 +0000 StateFans 20082@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>^ Yes it has been sitting there for YEARS and the media continues to ignore it.</p> <p>Maybe they were all too busy tracking down the John Edwards saga.</p> <p>Nah. That isn&#39;t it.</p> <p>Or, pinning the tail on Mike Easley and Ruffin Poole while the SOB was actually in office for eight years.</p> <p>Nah. That isn&#39;t it, either. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-20075 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 16:27:29 +0000 Noah 20075@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p><blockquote>Could you imagine the hell we&#39;d have to endure if it were found out that JJ Hickson&#39;s folks stayed at Wendell Murphy&#39;s mansion?</blockquote></p> <p>Or that we got his guardian a job?</p> <p>Yes, UNC&#39;s basketball program provides illegal benefits. Yes, that has been going on for DECADES. Yes, there is a booster with an Isuzu dealership who makes cars available for star players. No, this is not a secret and the football players who don&#39;t get the same treatment bitch about this frequently. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-20045 Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:24:16 +0000 StateFans 20045@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>BTTT </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-15784 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 16:24:27 +0000 phishbfm 15784@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>Thank you for your note about the Ellingtons. It was forwarded to me, and we are looking into several things, including whether the owner can be classified as a UNC booster (and if so, whether the house was rented at the same rate it would have been rented to the family of a non-athlete), whether the school&#39;s compliance department looking into/approved this, etc.</p> <p>I apologize for taking so long to get back to you, but I have been in and out of town because of the holidays.</p> <p>Have a great new year,</p> <p>Robbi Pickeral<br /> College Basketball Reporter/UNC beat writer<br /> The (Raleigh) News &amp; Observer </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-15768 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 06:01:12 +0000 leroy corso 15768@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>Exactly sautz. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-15759 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 04:09:30 +0000 sautz 15759@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>choppack, I don&#39;t think Mr. Mason or the Ellingtons would be out advertising what the rent was, especially if it were low or none. The point is that if this had happened here you know the N&amp;O would have gotten hold of every receipt, tax record, and interviewed 30 people about this by now. Just look at their little smoke, absolutely no fire story about College Inn. The media has much more power than your average citizen to get this information and if they are going to investigate every tiny thing they hear about us they should give equal treatment to unx. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-15756 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 03:55:40 +0000 choppack1 15756@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>GC - then you have to demonstrate that the Ellington&#39;s were paying below a reasonable amount for rent. Anyone know what the rent was? </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-15751 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 02:02:32 +0000 leroy corso 15751@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>This has been known and discussed between members on a Duke board (premium) for nearly 1 year. Carolinasucks caught wind and was the fist to publish after much hesitation. Their journalistic credibility sucks despite only posting facts/links.<br /> Frumpzilla picking it up made it blow up. Kudos to them.<br /> There&#39;s actually more to the story which will be made public after a little fact finding. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-15747 Sun, 03 Jan 2010 00:37:55 +0000 phishbfm 15747@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>Yeah. Carolinasucks brought it up first, then frumpzilla added some stuff with that article. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-15744 Sat, 02 Jan 2010 23:52:04 +0000 wolfonthehill 15744@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>^ I actually saw it on CarolinaSucks.com last week. I hadn&#39;t visited that site in a year or two, but I ran across it via a link... when I started browsing, this one was there. As far as I know, they were first. </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-15741 Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:44:18 +0000 GAWolf 15741@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>Just curious.... Where did this story first come about? Here? </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-15739 Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:06:25 +0000 leroy corso 15739@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>The Ellington&#39;s moved to Cary after they lived in the Stockton Way home. Here are the two homes they lived in. They upgraded. </p> <p><a href="http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy293/clemmons98/wayneellingtonhousecary1.jpg">http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy293/c...nhousecary1.jpg</a><br /> <img src="http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy293/clemmons98/wayneellingtonhousecary1.jpg"></p> <p><a href="http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy293/clemmons98/wayneellingtonhousecary2.jpg">http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy293/c...nhousecary2.jpg</a>?<br /> <img src="http://i801.photobucket.com/albums/yy293/clemmons98/wayneellingtonhousecary2.jpg"> </p> http://www.statefansnationforums.com/topic.php?id=824&page=2#post-15731 Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:15:41 +0000 GoldenChain 15731@http://www.statefansnationforums.com/ <p>choppack, giving a prospect or their family free or reduced rent in return for them playing ball is a violation.<br /> Taking money from an agent, even by your family, while you are in college is a MAJOR violation (think Reggie Bush).<br /> I suspect this is more the 1st supplied a sharply reduced rental for the family while the son was in school.<br /> (and an assistant coach playing a pick-up game was enough to rob us of a NC chance)</p> <p>Bottom line is this: (1) how does a working man just pull up stakes from the area he&#39;s lived all his life to move to where his son is going to play ball, ESPECIALLY renting a house that is over twice as nice as the one he has been living in. I had a son who played college ball and I didn&#39;t quit my job and move 5 states away. (2) why would ANYONE rent you an executive home at a cheap or reduced rate unless there was something up? Mike Sleasly got a $100k discount on a beach lot, did he just get it because he was a nice guy? No he got it so he could do favors for the developer who gave the favor. Would Wayne Sr still have remained in this house if Jr had transerred to NCCU? </p>